[Discussion Only] Cheaters & Hackers

because the tread is lock and it wont update anymore its to deep to do a back read about it and if you already know that it is a bug why you delete the report?

As Refia explained it has to be deleted for visibility. It was posted in Report cheater’s thread and it’s not a cheat. Do I need to explain that further for you?

I am deleting all the “wrong” report due visibility. It has nothing to do with censorship.

yup do a full explanation why it is lock and some post got deleted and how about do a public update to us normal players about what happening in DQ even it is not release

wrong then you must correct it right not delete?

As I said, I am deleting them due visibility.

You can ask any questions about the future of DQ here: Developer Q&A

@Refia well i still dont understand why you allow bug using …
In nearly all RPG or even normal games taking advantage out of bugs and glitches is forbidden and bannable the reason of this quiet harsh punishment is comprehensible and fair since it gives player small advantages over normal players that might not read so much in the forums or didnt get the information about the bug somehow.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3924307

just some pretty popular games and their decisions about bug exploits / using…

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Hi! To be clear Refia is not a member of shiny box, she only helps moderate the forums in this case.

In nearly all RPG or even normal games taking advantage out of bugs and glitches is forbidden and bannable the reason of this quiet harsh punishment is comprehensible

The difference here is that you’re comparing us to 200 person+ companies that run online required games. We have 2-3 devs devoted to DQ, and DQ is an offline game with client data stored on the phone (extremely easy to hack). I’d say it’s more appropriate to compare us to a Pokemon game (which is still very exploitable).

We try our best to clean up our ranking leaderboards and take care of any reports we see, but spending all our time preventing exploits/cheats in our game does not make sense from a resources required / value, when we could be spending time making content for legit players.

Hope that clears things up!

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if you can do a banned league do a testing league too to not make confusion put all your tester in that league.

@SteigerBox
Well okay i see its true i just took out “big company name” as examples(GameFreak is not that small either :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:)
I ll not refer to any games now or company’s but its kinda weird that bug using is allowed since you could simply change it by disabling the root of the bug/glitch like at the Eternal conversion bug by disabling the conversion of the item in eternal form…

But isnt there a point a bug can destroy the economy system i mean a Gold/Crystal bug would be a huge thing i mean the people which find these sort of bug could use them and get x gold out of it but i guess u guys will try to fix the bug asap then and after the bug is solved there would be the people who took huge advantage out of the bug and got them huge amount of gold or crystals and now can build perfect pvp pve … sets.
Then there would be the players that didnt noticed the bug in time which ll be angry becouse they missed their opportunity and at least there ll be players that joined the game after the bug got fixed and these players ll be the angriest becouse they didnt even had the opportunity …

I am sure the dev’s fully understand your PoV. The bug is fixed in the current version. The problem is not “Allow” but there is no way to prevent it and little reason to punish it. 2.1 was released to EVERYONE. Should everyone that accidentally encountered the bug be banned? That is idiotic.

There is no such thing a a bug free game. The devs try their best but nothing can prevent unexpected interactions from happening. Within the scope of 2.1, that item is legitimately following the item rules set at that time:

  1. You cannot get a skill affix on an item that is not part of your class.
  2. Any affixes that does not follow the item rules are changed into an empty slot.

The item is not much different from the legacy item’s I posted. They are limited time items that is no longer available. I personally choose not to use them in PVP because new players cannot get them but that is my choice. I do not expect everyone to follow the same moral compass as I.

This item below is one of the rarest of legacy items and I want one. >.< It is no different from a normal legendary pet but it has a cyan glow/border.

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@Clogon As I mentioned before there could be a quick update for fixing/disabling this feature that couses the bug well u even could force players to update before they can play again so there would be more equality …
Well i dont really care about visual effects anyway i was just kinda upset bug exploits were “allowed”…
so DMG/Unique stuff can be get legit except for players that start playing later …

Its not like veteran players shouldnt get any visual special thanks for loyality it just makes players stop playing
if there is an item everyone in the top 10 uses and its to powerful but can not be crafted/droped/bought anymore

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about the cyan pet glow I saw a player got the merlin pet with cyan affix but when he use it the cyan affix gone and the dev says its a bug but in that case only rare?

You don’t seem to understand what it means to be an OFFLINE game. You cannot force people to do anything. If someone wants to play Emerald on the GBA instead of Omega Ruby on the DS, Gamefreak can’t force them to do otherwise. Shinybox cannot release a patch to that to automatically convert bugged items just like how Gamefreak cannot release a patch that fixes bugged and hacked Pokemon created from previous versions. If people want to use these pokemon to battle and trade online, they can (with in a limited scope just like DQ). If Gamefreak cannot prevent and fix bugged/hacked Pokemon, what makes you think these devs can?

This is an OFFLINE game. This fact comes with a lot of good but a lot of bad as well. The only way to prevent the things you are disliking is to make it a 100% ONLINE game. This solution is not happenning to Dungeon Quest.

@eater:
That is not the same type of pet. As you can see from the screenshot above, this one has no crystal affixes.

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Good day! Please review this suspicious character items. I battle this at arena today. Please see the attached picture. Hoping for your positive response. Thank you!

Looks like a edited item to me. Real eternal ragnarok has control duration, orb proc, defiant, 100% wd, % reduced cooldown and % fire ed without any editing. I don’t think crystal affixes can be added to this ragnarok eternal chakram.

It’s obvious to get that kind of affixes. It is edited by sb game hacker or game killer. Something fishy!

i’ve only been playing for a month so i’m not sure if cheat or not, this guy owned me 1-3 in arena. i can only post 1 pic but the dagger in OH is pretty much the same.

It is edited.

I would like to report a cheater. But I don’t know how to post pics. Hehehe.