The sad truth is you have to buy two extra save slots to beable to truely get all the items and I can’t even aforde that. So these two builds are my pride and joy that I worked hard on making. I love them and I cherish them. I can’t copy anybody’s build idea because I just can’t get the items and all the gems needed :’(
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I agree. They could make the items from a certain class drop and make jasper a bit harder to obtain so it’s fair.
Don’t be too hard on yourself bro.
Honestly you are better than me.
I rely only on the builds being shared here.
So lazy to make my own. Hehehe.
You have the potential so keep it up.
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You’ll just get better at it. Like the other guys on the forum. Somewhere they were like you.
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Thank you bro it means alot
what IMBA mean tho? imbalance? if so why? i dont get it.
@cronos4321 Imba is more like a other term use for OP"overpowered. he actually meant to praise u for makin strong builds 
@Zombikiss yup i saw all of them. no offense (i thought u needed advice to be strong and improve ur gears) im just being plainly prank since i just want to help you. on my first 1year playin DQ i only had rogue char and dont hve any xtra slot(since i cant afford them) but aftet playin/farmin 5month i was able to make strong build that conquer 1500+ or even much higher floor. just dont losee hope keep farming. (ididnt stop farming until i got my hands on those rare wiz gears).i guess the best first thing u do is earn lots of obsi amethys rubies from converting eternal gears (so u can easily make a descent build) dont get tired farming lol. “anything is possible in this game”.
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@roykiyoy ahhh i though it just mean imbalance, didnt know it have other meaning. haha
@Zombikiss im not look at ur build since my internet not fast enough to load those pic lol. sorry about that, for generally advice just farm resource (CS&MS) Item with rare affix like barbarian push over limit etc. Spent all those, testing all affix and understand how it work, be determine and creative.
u will be me lol (this one just joke)
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You’re welcome. 
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Nothing is imbalance with the builds you make. Totally high damage outputs and high survivability rate. Pretty well balanced I should say.
The IMBA is just another word for OP or OVERPOWERED, just like what @roykiyoy said.
I keep myself updated with both of your posted builds.
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I do have a challenge for both of you @roykiyoy and @cronos4321.
I have a cool name for a build concept but I can’t manage to make it because I’m still totally confused and quite clueless.
Up to the task of making it for us???
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Tell me if you are game about it.
A friendly competition between good build makers. 
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Gonna make a new thread if you do.
Should use common word lol. i not good with english. anyway thanks for that. but im still newbie, i still have alot thing need to learn tho.
about the build. i dont like challage tho but just name it. probably the idea just pop in lol
@roykiyoy remove the affix +2080Hp on OH replace it with +1040WD, have 52-54k HP now T,T. Is this one better or previously when u tough with it better?
@Onaneehsyu im not good at naming lol. ask cronos to use his imagination 
(also i cant manage to create build atm im out of crystal after trial and error makin pvp builds lol) i cant count how many gears ive created and xperimented in arena just today lol my 400M gold turn to dust lol after converting stones.
@cronos4321 the torrent dmg inc by 2k i just
fought it now last time it was around 7k-7.3k
now it hit 8.9-9.5k lol (more oppier) though u sacrfice almost 12k hp? 
(not to mention the freakin 39k deadly strike lol now i realy gotta dodge those torrent. i tend to eat
them cuz i love the dmg dey do when i check after battle result lol praising enemy skill is bad habit of mine)
yea genesis sold her soul to the demon to gain more power lol. probably will try give up another +2080Hp affix for more damage. the next time (maybe) she have less than 40k hp lol
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Well that’s sad. Hahaha. Maybe I should do it myself after all. Hahaha.