# Confused and no idea what to improve

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**Category:** Gameplay\
**Created:** [April 17, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949 "2017-04-17T10:13:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/1 "2017-04-17T10:13:22Z")

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Hej guys!

I’ve started new and read all the existing guides for being good in this long journey… BUT for every single one you need some specific items that a beginner simply do not have.

So - here’s a link to what I have and I hope, you guys could give me some tips what will make my life in-game much easier…  
[https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6tzltMx1OAZZTBtNzB6OC04eEk](https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6tzltMx1OAZZTBtNzB6OC04eEk)

I play wizard and my hireling is the roque… I would love it much more to play the roque, but for now I think it’s better to play the wizard…  
I’m at F125 on M3 difficulty and I use maps all the time…

Thanks from a real confused men…

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/2 "2017-04-17T10:28:13Z")

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Got this here:

 ![](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/22bdbccf10ef1543f7d37c335f18c8c1a6a64b48.png)

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**Author:** ![ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/zaraki/32/17604_2.png) [@ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ZARAKI)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/3 "2017-04-17T10:48:23Z")

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First thing to do is to make ur hero lvl 99 and select fortunate perks . and stop doing chalenge maps .and also make ur gears same element by using calcite .(shock) . then change ur map dificulty to epic-legend . first mythic u need to craft is hunter ring to find narodji (+2sets)

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/4 "2017-04-18T08:18:03Z")

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Hello and thanks for the information!

I changed my builds back to:  
Wizard = Orb  
Roque(hireling) = Bow

Fortunate perks are what? And where can I get them? Both of my heroes are lvl 92 now and i´m at floor 165 on legend-difficulty…

Missing the fortune-mythstone to make the hunter complete ☹

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**Author:** ![deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/deathgg/32/13029_2.png) [@deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/deathGG)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/5 "2017-04-18T10:57:36Z")

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Fortunate perk increases ur luck +200% u can get it by ascending from lvl 99 to lvl 1 , u can buy ascension in shop. 1st ascension is 5M it increases as you ascend more until final ascension

I suggest pick 1 hero to ascend first since you need the other to help you lvl up quickly. Ascend ur other char when you have both strong characters for floor 200

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/6 "2017-04-18T11:09:30Z")

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Hello @deathGG!

Thanks for yr response 😉

OK - so you mean, ascend first the wizard, then lvl him up with the roque(hireling) and when the wizard again reached lvl 99(ascended) do the same with roque?

Can you maybe tell me, how is it possible to get cyan-coloured items with a mythstone AND A set-affix?

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**Author:** ![deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/deathgg/32/13029_2.png) [@deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/deathGG)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/7 "2017-04-18T11:26:45Z")

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> [@AW91](#):
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> OK - so you mean, ascend first the wizard, then lvl him up with the roque(hireling) and when the wizard again reached lvl 99(ascended) do the same with roque?

Yes whatever is the easiest but may i suggest for ascending ur hireling just ascend 2 times (fortunate perk and dealer perk) since other ascensions wont work anyways with your main

For cyan coloured item just put obsidian (only 1 can be applied) in putting a mythstone with a set affix place a zircon( crystal) to the item befor putting the mythstone elixir

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**Author:** ![ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/zaraki/32/17604_2.png) [@ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ZARAKI)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/8 "2017-04-18T12:19:31Z")

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Enjoy the game bro. Ull be strong ! Just keep playing and playing and playing ! Thats the secret of everyone.:parrotbeer:

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/9 "2017-04-18T12:21:42Z")

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Yeah, but at any time, I need to grow up stronger, and when this don´t will happen - I have a problem…  
Hope you understand^^

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**Author:** ![ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/zaraki/32/17604_2.png) [@ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ZARAKI)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/10 "2017-04-18T12:31:53Z")

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Yes in some point. But why ur hir? Wer hir? To help each other bro. A true gamer never surrender .

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/11 "2017-04-18T12:34:37Z")

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I won´t surrender for sure 😉

What do you mean with this:  
“But why ur hir? Wer hir?”?

I´ll play till lvl 99 on both heroes and after that, i´ll ask again what to do 😃

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**Author:** ![ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/zaraki/32/17604_2.png) [@ZARAKI](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ZARAKI)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/12 "2017-04-18T12:36:39Z")

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Haha makesense bro. 😂 .

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/13 "2017-04-18T13:32:08Z")

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Hej,

I found this thread: [Skaul's Hierarchy of Tips and Tricks [SHTT] [2.5]](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skauls-hierarchy-of-tips-and-tricks-shtt-2-5/5860)

It´s really cool and now I know what´s meant with ascending! 😉  
That will gonna be my next step - but now my question…  
Is it better to ascend the main first or the hireling?  
On the long run, I´ll play the roque(bow) and have either the wizard or the wizard as hireling…  
But for now, it´s maybe easier to play with the wizard(orb/twister)…

And fortune-ascending is the best set, right?

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**Author:** ![SickMyDuck](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SickMyDuck](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/SickMyDuck)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/14 "2017-04-18T13:37:23Z")

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Are u sure that fortunate on hireling works?

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**Author:** ![deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/deathgg/32/13029_2.png) [@deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/deathGG)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/15 "2017-04-18T13:47:30Z")

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Im sure, been playing for months now. I suggest u ascend the main first. When i first ascended i used the treasured perk for having a great chance of finding eternal items, crystal items and the combination of both.

Its up to you on what u will pick first. Think carefully on what you want to plan on doing in the future, so the thing you do now will not be wasted.  
😉😉

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**Author:** ![AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@AW91](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/AW91)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/16 "2017-04-18T14:02:37Z")

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OK!

@deathGG

I gonna play only PVE - I´m not interested in playing at PVP.

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**Author:** ![SickMyDuck](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SickMyDuck](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/SickMyDuck)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/17 "2017-04-18T14:08:10Z")

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So i can basiclly go 400% over luck cap with fortunate on main and hireling? Can someone confirm that? Because im pretty sure that i read somewhere on the forum that the only working one on hireling is a Dealer 😛

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**Author:** ![deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/deathgg/32/13029_2.png) [@deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/deathGG)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/18 "2017-04-18T14:17:04Z")

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Thats how i got 1012% luck first 650 then 850 with hireling plus 25% more because of epiphany

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**Author:** ![SickMyDuck](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@SickMyDuck](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/SickMyDuck)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/19 "2017-04-18T14:21:43Z")

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Another one then, do i have to put epiphany on main or it doesnt matter?

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**Author:** ![deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/deathgg/32/13029_2.png) [@deathGG](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/deathGG)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/confused-and-no-idea-what-to-improve/14949/20 "2017-04-18T14:41:52Z")

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Main, but im not exactly an expert but i havent tried putting epiphany on my hireling i think cuzegspiked or griffin can help you with that. Sorry

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