# Effective + Weaken. Whats the weakness

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/effective-weaken-whats-the-weakness/18358/4 "2017-08-30T22:56:37Z")

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This is an amazing guide to get the big picture of how weaken is useful.

> [@Mid's - Weaken vs. Effective vs. Ignore Resist - Guide \[3.0\]](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/mids-weaken-vs-effective-vs-ignore-resist-guide-3-0/15162):
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> Contents Introduction The Enemy Resistance System (PvE) 2.1 Base Resistance 2.2 Resist, Greatly Resist and Immune Affixes 2.3 Enemy’s Usual Weakness 2.4 Examples Weaken Effective (Mythic) Ignore Resist Analysis and Comparison 6.1 Crystal Weaken (compared to Ignore Resist) 6.2 Effective (compared to Weaken and Ignore Resist) 6.3 Arcane Damage Conclusion (the TLDR Part) 1. Introduction It’s been some time now that I’ve been wondering how Ignore Resist, Weaken and Effective work exactly.…

But I definitely did personal testing and it seems that Weaken is so much more powerful especially when it happens 100%+ of the time and it practically makes enemies defenseless against the build elements. Weaken high enough with ascendant as another option and exponential DMG like Frozen or so is a huge deal after all. Exponential buff in DMG but on almost ×2 the scale.

Without any ignore resist, weaken nor effective, having Frozen explosions from Frozen set would lose DMG instead of gain due to enemy resists and immunities but they get rendered basically useless after such high weaken.

My hypothesis of enemies having -% resist from weaken was correct.

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