Help kill the frozen Cartagrapher!

Not looking for a work around, looking for a fix. :wink:

Maybe those other two threads could be merged here.
Wasn’t a Carto but related to what Todd said in those other threads, I had to switch from farming to killing gear yesterday midfight, which resulted in an invincible Frozen Fury.
Targetable, damageable, still had an hp bar but empty, still attacked, wouldn’t die.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.

When playing my whirlwind warrior, this never happens.

When playing my tornado wizard, this happens like 70% of the time. I really really hate having to keep buying that stupid map.

[quote=“Fractal”]When playing my whirlwind warrior, this never happens.

When playing my tornado wizard, this happens like 70% of the time. I really really hate having to keep buying that stupid map.[/quote]

Whirlwind warrior fire spec ? And wizard ice ?

I have only experienced carto bug a handful of times, and the only common denominator for me is ice element.

[quote=“JesteR”]Whirlwind warrior fire spec ? And wizard ice ?

I have only experienced carto bug a handful of times, and the only common denominator for me is ice element.[/quote]

I can’t really confirm or deny that, since my Wizard is Prismatic, but hey. Could be.

[quote=“JesteR”][quote=“Fractal”]When playing my whirlwind warrior, this never happens.

When playing my tornado wizard, this happens like 70% of the time. I really really hate having to keep buying that stupid map.[/quote]

Whirlwind warrior fire spec ? And wizard ice ?

I have only experienced carto bug a handful of times, and the only common denominator for me is ice element.[/quote]

Both are pure ice damage characters with frostbite.

Yes. Now that I stopped changing equipment so often, I cannot reproduce this bug anymore.[/quote]

You can rule this out. I just managed to reproduce it without changing equipments by doing the below. The parts in are changed from the original post:
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1741#p18001

[quote=“Unities”]I cannot find any thread mentionning if this issue has been addressed or not but I am still experiencing this bug as of IOS 8, DQ ver. 1.8 on an iPad2.

To shed some light onto this bug that ONLY happens on Cartographers, my hypothesis is that unlike the rest of the mob on the map, Cartographers are spawnned immediately at map generation (just like crates and shrines and also similar to crates is that you can kill it off map without seeing it using long rage projectiles like Pistols) instead of when the player gets near him. As the player marchs towards it, monsters and items are created and are in need of IOS resources causing the game to delete some data and remove old idle memory. I have experienced this bug A LOT and can reproduce it at almost a 100% rate:

  1. buy a map that has increased monster spawn.
  2. Explore everywhere But [leave the Cartographer alive while you do so.]
  3. profit (or lose to bug in this case)

This bug comes in 2 stages. A minor version is that he is still ingame, came move around, attack and be killed but cannot be locked on (auto lock on does not work, Hireling will not attack it and Guided Shot will not hunt it down) and will not have an HP bar or damage numbers when you hit it. The major version is when the unit disappears leaving only an empty sprite that does nothing.[/quote]

I had my first shrine boss be untargetable, and he was guarding the cartographer. The cartographer acted normally though.

I am 100% poison, and the untargetable happens a lot. The frozen hasn’t happened in a while.

the “amount of monsters with DOT effect on, still alive” matters. more you leave - higher the chance the Carto will be hard to beat. Wizard’s +4eac, high CC, high CHD and deadly strike can do it quite effectively. still takes a lot of time comparing to “normal” Epic Carto to take him down. Drop is the same in comparison
^^imho

What about applying crystal or mythstone effects? Not changing equipment per-say but along the same lines. That ever line up with an invincible carto?

Nope. I have had it happen without touching the menu button.

happening in both occasions, with changing gear, without changing gear. and I never apply crystals while on the run. thats why i do not think it is somehow related to “inventory screen”

The number of enemies on the map seem to be the only thing affecting this. I recommend just creating a “Shrine” like tower that we activate to summon the Cartagrapher.

another thing i gorgot to mention… hard carto is quite easy to find, coz we need to kill him to proceed further. but it is also happening that other monster rare/magic/normal get that “illness”. But 1 thing is for sure. I’ve never seen more than 1 invincible monster per map

My maximum was 4. I had 3 invincible ghosts following me around trying to kill me…

As much as I hate to say it, I suspect the common theme is ice element.

I have never had the bug when not using ice. Maybe it is from slowing too many mobs at once, or just the ice properties themselves.

Has anyone had the bug without having ice on MH or OH?

Evolution or Extinxtion

Ryim 99 Rogue
RyimScaith 81 Warrior
Rym 61 Wizard
Riym 58 Rogue

encountered these “ghost” monster too…
they’re a bother when using bows coz they stick to you and the arrow seeks them ignoring monsters which are alive…
encountered zombie monsters too…
its seems this happens when you kill a monster while the screen is lagging so much …when the lag subsides, the enemy dies but their sprite still moves…the melee ones isn’t a threat but the ranged ones can still damage you

[quote=“ryimscaith”]As much as I hate to say it, I suspect the common theme is ice element.

I have never had the bug when not using ice. Maybe it is from slowing too many mobs at once, or just the ice properties themselves.

Has anyone had the bug without having ice on MH or OH?

Evolution or Extinxtion

Ryim 99 Rogue
RyimScaith 81 Warrior
Rym 61 Wizard
Riym 58 Rogue[/quote]

@admins. is there anything players could do to help in resolving this? some clues? or would you mind to answer some “random” technical or mechanical questions?
really annoying thing… 3 times in a row is my favorite ))

Has anyone thought about our gear? Everyone runs sort of the same set affixes and bonuses.