# Help **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay\ **Created:** [February 10, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715 "2019-02-10T04:16:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Stupidguy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/1 "2019-02-10T04:16:57Z")
CAN I GET LIVING FORCE USING AMETHYST ?? HELP PLEASE I WANT TO USE LIVING FORCE ON THIS ITEM ![Screenshot_2019-02-10-12-15-11](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/a/ea4509053ed2bae3fce2c1e7199f6ceb9a08429a.png) ---
**Author:** ![brang](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/brang/32/20071_2.png) [@brang](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/brang)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/2 "2019-02-10T06:58:34Z")
Yes u can, here for more info > [@Crystal Crafting Restrictions](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/crystal-crafting-restrictions/3694): > > I compiled this list base on the help of the forum and wanted to share. Any improvements/additional info on it please post and I’ll edit it. Crystal crafting via obsidian. Crytal Block is to be crafted only on Off hand Cannot be attained via Amethyst Crystalline Mythical Nadroji Eternalized Defiant Maelstrom Gladiator (Class set exclusives like Rage/Momentum/etc) Example (The item needs to be on the class that it’s exclusive) (You can use jasper to change item to another class) This is a… ---
**Author:** ![Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Stupidguy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/3 "2019-02-10T12:36:41Z")
Thanks bro! I wasted 15 amethyst fuck my luck ---
**Author:** ![Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/golem/32/29285_2.png) [@Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Golem)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/4 "2019-02-10T20:31:41Z")
know how you feel. 🎲 x 100 = 0️⃣ sometimes 😭. RNG can be so unfair 😆!!! ---
**Author:** ![Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Stupidguy)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/5 "2019-02-11T02:25:38Z")
Update : still dont have it im broke srsly maybe the game changes it? Lol ---
**Author:** ![brang](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/brang/32/20071_2.png) [@brang](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/brang)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/6 "2019-02-11T03:18:19Z")
Use it on warrior item… if u use other class item, jasper it to warrior, end try roll again, I try it when making my war, and that set appear… ---
**Author:** ![Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Stupidguy)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/7 "2019-02-11T07:27:55Z")
Ok bro thanks ---
**Author:** ![Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/golem/32/29285_2.png) [@Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Golem)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/8 "2019-02-11T18:14:29Z")
all 3 Classes can roll Living Force on their items, since all Classes have a Ring & Neck item with it. Warrior also has a Living Force Hatchet, Vibro Blade I think. if you haven’t been getting it, it probably means RNG is playing Cat & Mouse with you. 🐈 ⚔ 🐁 or maybe hide & seek. ---
**Author:** ![Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Stupidguy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/9 "2019-02-12T04:14:31Z")
Hey can someone answer me? What does double mitigate means? ---
**Author:** ![brang](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/brang/32/20071_2.png) [@brang](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/brang)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/10 "2019-02-12T07:08:45Z")
Read here > [@Double Mitigate Double Headache joy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/double-mitigate-double-headache/15417/2): > > When you’re at the damage reduction step, you have a chance to reduce the damage again by the same amount of reduction. Say you have 80% damage reduction and 25% Double Mitigate: in 75% of the cases you reduce your damage by 80%. in 25% of the cases you reduce your damage by 1 - 20% \* 20% = 96%. Your average damage reduction thus becomes: 1 - (75% \* 20% + 25% \* 20% \* 20%) = 84%.wink Double mitigate and double strike ---
**Author:** ![Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stupidguy](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Stupidguy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/11 "2019-02-12T15:58:02Z")
Thanks bro! One last question does living force have effect on guided shot? ---
**Author:** ![dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/dickwad/32/19765_2.png) [@dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/dickwad)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/12 "2019-02-12T17:33:19Z")
Be carefull with living force. It can reduce range of attack. ---
**Author:** ![Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/golem/32/29285_2.png) [@Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Golem)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/13 "2019-02-12T18:50:10Z")
this is a list of what Living Force can affect. hope this helps with future builds. > [@I badly need help](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/i-badly-need-help/24093/38): > > Twister is not a Projectile. umm, Comet, Barrage, Scalp, Pierce, Throw Sword, Toss, Boomerang, Whirling Blades, Rock Blast (MH Mythic), Cosmic Orb (MH Mythic), and Orbit (the Arcane Elemental Critical) are the only things that are considered Projectiles and that can be used with Living Force. ---
**Author:** ![dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/dickwad/32/19765_2.png) [@dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/dickwad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/14 "2019-02-19T17:57:01Z")
Living force may be good with scalp possibley ---
**Author:** ![Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/golem/32/29285_2.png) [@Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Golem)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/15 "2019-02-19T18:09:11Z")
I used Living Force for a little while in my early days and I really like it. with the right Build, it can help do crazy high DMG. a Warrior with Taunt, then use Scalp with Living Force, tons of DMG!. with Arcane Element & Elemental Crit + Arcane ED% + Celestial, you can add Orbit for even more tons of DMG!!. Orbit is affected by Living Force also. @dickwad, if you remember some of your Proc Builds, a Living Force Proc Build could do some crazy DMG with the right Projectile Procs. ---
**Author:** ![dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/dickwad/32/19765_2.png) [@dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/dickwad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/16 "2019-02-19T18:50:28Z")
Living force with a cosmi orb chakram may be good. Wouldn’t know as I’m a Summoner. ---
**Author:** ![Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/golem/32/29285_2.png) [@Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Golem)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/17 "2019-02-19T18:55:29Z")
I don’t think any of your Summon Builds would have room for Living Force & Cosmic Orb, unless you did a lot of tweaking. ---
**Author:** ![dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/dickwad/32/19765_2.png) [@dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/dickwad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/18 "2019-02-19T18:57:26Z")
But then I would be reliant on legend summon fury procs. Tried it. 😅 ---
**Author:** ![dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/dickwad/32/19765_2.png) [@dickwad](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/dickwad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/19 "2019-02-19T19:13:01Z")
What if I stacked summon fury procs with apocalypse ? It would not increase the number of furies. Just the frequency ---
**Author:** ![Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/golem/32/29285_2.png) [@Golem](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/Golem)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715/20 "2019-02-19T19:19:19Z")
well, I was just thinking how the Classes & Skills are so different, that there are a lot of different Element/Skill/Class/Affix combinations based of what kind of Build you are attempting. Living Force with 1 Skill, multiple Skills, same Class, Other Class, or multi Class Skills, is LF the core of the Build or support for the core of the Build. Arcane Element to make use of Orbit? room for Rock Blast or Cosmic Orb? Furies from Fury Proc are different from the Furies from Apocalypse Mythic, so they add up. hmm, 3 Summons with 3 Furies with 3 Apocalypse kind of looks scary. but Fury Proc is 10%, so would take time to get them in Arena unless very lucky or have a skill with high AS or CD. [Next page](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/help/27715.md?page=2)