Ignore Resist vs. Weaken & Effective Guide by Mid (as of Patch 2.5)

[Midlumer]

@Clogon

Effective does not affect resistance. It gives a bonus 25% boost. If the enemy is immune to its own weakness, then 0*1.25=0.

I suggest looking up my posts on effective.

No it does not effect the resistance (it changes the element to the usual weakness), but the usual weakness does! Therefore, Effective does not increase the damage by 25% - that is definitely wrong!

If it would work like that, my observations would have been different.

@Midlumer

I tested again on a Shrine Monster (without Greatly Resist), see the damage values below:

236 with nothing on
472 with Ignore Resist (damage at 0% resistance)
589 with Effective
600 with Weaken
954 with Weaken + Effective

-> The monster resistance is therefore: 236/472 = 50%.-> Effective changes the element to the monster’s weakness at damage calculation (-25% monster resistance): 472 * (1 + 25%) = 589 damage.-> Weaken reduces the monster’s resistance by 77.3% (50% - 77.3% = -27.3%): 472 * (1 + 27.3%) = 600 damage.-> Effective + Weaken yield a monster resistance of (-25% - 77.3% = -102.3%): 472 * (1 + 102.3%) = 954 damage.

This is exactly what happens. The interaction with Weaken is consistent with -25% monster resistance. Otherwise the damage values would be different with Weaken+Effective together.

600*1.25 would be 750, not 904.

Edit: although I still don’t know what happens if the “weak” resistance gets resistance because it is an epic monster.

Oh, and while you’re at reporting bugs :

Equality Bug + Mythic Skilled Bug

Hi, just wanted to report that the DMG% of Equality does not show and/or work for OH skills. And that the 50% for primary (is it supposed to work for MH only, as stated in the Dictionary?) skills does not show in the DMG screen either. I thought I’d repost it here. Best, Mid

Equality is bugged somehow, and Skilled Mythic does not show in the damage screen.