# Skyfall, tnt etc. Can block dodge? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938 "2017-08-16T18:47:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/1 "2017-08-16T18:47:06Z")
Can these be blocked / dodged? ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/2 "2017-08-16T18:49:21Z")
Yep. ---
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/3 "2017-08-16T18:50:37Z")
Ty. The defense thing is working out, but when i get hit… im creamed. Even on f550 easy. Lol ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/4 "2017-08-16T19:22:42Z")
Lol. The defense matters for sure and then being able to dodge some attacks . Smoke bombs do help except against Skyfall and bombs. Stealth is very helpful but it halves your entire damage for the duration (which isn’t bad unless you use a Frozen build or any multiplying build but it’s temporary. 50% dodge (30% dodge crystal Affixes, 10% dodge from dexterity 20 and 10 % base dodge). Having block also helps of course but yeah it’s either one of the other, or both depending on the build. As long as you can defeat enemies quickly, you should be good to go. Preferably at range distance. ---
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/5 "2017-08-16T19:43:57Z")
Im using block and dodge. 60 / 40 atm. Its hard to increase block and still maintain my farm build. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/6 "2017-08-16T19:45:28Z")
I think that’s fine for now. Do you use crushing flames? ---
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/7 "2017-08-16T20:22:38Z")
Nope. Not sure what that is ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/8 "2017-08-16T20:23:10Z")
It’s a very good set affix and these legends tend to be found at floor 250 or so. Maybe at mythic 3. Also can be unlocked by dust when you salvage legends. ---
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/9 "2017-08-16T20:24:54Z")
Hmm. I dont see it in the wiki. I will look into it. Ty. I notice that the gauntlet / epiphany for wiz can be turned into an axe. Suitable for ww build. Wondering if i can optimize that to be a decent substitute for the eternal fates travesty. ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/10 "2017-08-16T20:30:46Z")
Yeah you can . Crushing flames is a relatively new set affix and basically it amplifies crushing blow damage by a huge amount when enemies are Immolated by fire (elemental crit). There’s also the added effect of increasing Immolate damage by 125% aka immolation damage . Combined with inferno set affix for faster tick speeds and blistering and it’s very deadly. Also great with high hit frequency skills. Good luck on finding it out. ---
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/11 "2017-08-16T21:35:37Z")
@CuzegSpiked Is this crushing flames set obtainable on any gear piece with amethyst? ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/12 "2017-08-16T21:44:25Z")
Yep. You could try it but I save you crystals by outright telling you. Anyway does nobody check the old guides anymore, the ones that are still relevant to today? I also feel like the community is getting smaller for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/obiwankenobi/32/16115_2.png) [@ObiWanKenobi](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/ObiWanKenobi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/13 "2017-08-16T22:07:22Z")
Reading guides, spreadsheets and lectures can be alot like a 12 yr old being handed an algebra text book for the year, with no instructional guidance for the entire course. Ive been reading for days, and in a little direct q and a, ive leearned far more. So again, ty @CuzegSpiked and all others for hrlpin out. Im doing far better, and have even crafted a suitable weapon replacement. Now have 75% dodge and 40% block, and its hugely noticeable. Ty ty. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/14 "2017-08-16T23:24:52Z")
Lmao. I was a massive noob once as well and I made so many huge mistakes on DQ but I learnt along the way and asked many questions. I remember copying builds but doing it so wrong it was costly and it took many many mistakes until I realised that I have to make a good farm build and guides did help. Always ask questions, you’ll eventually get real good. Even the pro player or most experienced players used to ask so many questions. Cronos4321 was a great example and some others. ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/15 "2017-08-16T23:29:00Z")
You should post a build for feedback. That’s how we can all improve. I sure as hell learnt a ton like this . What was cool though was that my very first post was a build guide meant to help newbies like myself even though I thought I was pro back then. Nowadays I’m and experienced player but I’m glad that post aged very well with so many views and I’m glad I helped many people . Even though I had some idea, I still had a lot to learn so asking questions, reading a few small guides , etc helped. There are some good guides to be recommended for any player and they have aged gracefully. > [@Rubik's Crystallography](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/rubiks-crystallography/1911): > > This thread will detail and describe the way that I save/manipulate/use Crystals in order to craft gear. This is, IMO, the best/most efficient method. First, all of the crystals. These are all the crystals in ascending order. Before anyone yells HAXOR!, these are NOT my crystals. The feat for converting and salvaging crystals is a great way to get higher level crystals. This is the method I use. X signifies a crystal that I DO NOT TOUCH. They will be the most important in… > [@Skaul's Hierarchy of Tips and Tricks \[SHTT\] \[2.5\] \[WIP as of 8/27/26\]](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skauls-hierarchy-of-tips-and-tricks-shtt-2-5/5860): > > 8/27/2026 — I’ve begun making updates to this again. I’ve polished a lot of things so far, but there’s still more work to do. Bear with me slightly_smiling_face°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•° The long awaited (for me, at least) guide to many things Dungeon Quest has now arrived! You can obtain this guide in many colors, including: Black. Phone, game, and batteries sold separately Greetings, and welcome to SHTT\*\*, the thread meant for all (many) of your Dungeon Quest-related ques… > [@Mechanics behind total effective luck, gold, and item drop %](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/mechanics-behind-total-effective-luck-gold-and-item-drop/3524): > > This is for anyone who wants to know how the total %'s are calculated and how to maximize your time and optimize stats. This info is confirmed by Steiger. I will update this top post as more info is come across. Table of Contents Total Effective Gold Find/Luck % Sources Formula Total Effective Item Drop % Sources Formula Conclusions Character stat screen Follower Shrines Applied Total Effective Gold Find/Luck % Sources: Hero % = gear + fortune skill + difficulty + shrine (c… I also did personally look up the wiki which did indeed help but a good forum post for mythics if not the wiki: > [@Griffin's Smithery: Masterpost](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffins-smithery-masterpost/7386): > > ##Griffin’s Smithery: Masterpost## this is a master post of all the links too Griffin’s Smithery guides organized in a nice and concise fashion grin Any stat with a given cap will have it listed with all of the other info on that stat in these guides How to: What does it do: [Crystals](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffin-smithery-crystals/7417)[Mythstones](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffins-smithery-mythstones/7408)[Mythics](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffins-smithery-mythics/7420/1)[Weapons](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffins-smithery-weapons-and-armour/7465)[Armour](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffins-smithery-armour/7494)[Heroic Skills](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/griffins-smithery-heroic-skills/7490/1) > [@Crystal Crafting Restrictions](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/crystal-crafting-restrictions/3694): > > I compiled this list base on the help of the forum and wanted to share. Any improvements/additional info on it please post and I’ll edit it. Crystal crafting via obsidian. Crytal Block is to be crafted only on Off hand Cannot be attained via Amethyst Crystalline Mythical Nadroji Eternalized Defiant Maelstrom Gladiator (Class set exclusives like Rage/Momentum/etc) Example (The item needs to be on the class that it’s exclusive) (You can use jasper to change item to another class) This is a… I would give a HUGE thank you to @Griffin @Skaul and many others for helping the community that much more. Also @Emman . My own guides also help even though they aren’t as old: > [@How to level up easiest way possible \[guide\]](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/how-to-level-up-easiest-way-possible-guide/7315): > > Assuming you can farm gold quite easily and you got an exp farming build like the one griffin built, heres easy way to level up from 1-50 then rest of levels, from my experience and I’d like to share to make many lives easier. Note: Exp Farming will still be very Grinding and tedious. When Ascended: Once you ascended , you become level 1, stats reset as well as your gear unequipped to the inventory and replaced with level 1 gear. Dont worry, you can’t ascend with full inventory and you need … > [@Most Efficient farm build Mythic 3 with Hirlings Comprehensive Guide](http://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/most-efficient-farm-build-mythic-3-with-hirlings-comprehensive-guide/14987): > > #Formulas: Gold Find and Luck: (Hero + Follower) / 2 + Fortunate + Shop Boost + Map Base . Although gold find doesn’t seem to be averaged ATM so this will just for luck. Also difficulty bonus does gets averaged so if you want the full 350% mythic 3 bonus, you need both characters to be set on Mythic 3 Difficulty​. Item Drops: (Hero + Follower) / 2 + Follower Bonus + Map Base + Shop Boost . Do note that even when hirling is dead, the affixes still apply as if you still have hirling equipped e… ---
**Author:** ![novice](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a87d85/32.png) [@novice](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/novice)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/16 "2017-08-18T08:32:43Z")
This might be a silly question but can u also block/dodge thorns? I really find it annoying. Hahaha ---
**Author:** ![slimycucumber](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@slimycucumber](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/slimycucumber)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/17 "2017-08-18T09:24:45Z")
I think so. Just like with the reflect dmage. But dont worry about it. Thorns will not kill u but the surrounding mobs will be able to kill u if u reach low health. U can use hp leech/on hit (assuming u are at a lower floor). But the technique is to kill that epic monster with high dmge but lower attack frequency. ---
**Author:** ![CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/user_avatar/forums.dungeon-quest.com/cuzegspiked/32/24480_2.png) [@CuzegSpiked](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/CuzegSpiked)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/18 "2017-08-18T13:01:16Z")
You can’t block or dodge thorns but thorns isn’t a huge deal when you got good dodge/block and generally good survival against enemies. ---
**Author:** ![novice](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a87d85/32.png) [@novice](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/novice)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/19 "2017-08-18T13:21:52Z")
Woaah! Its all cleared up now. Thanks a ton. Haha ---
**Author:** ![slimycucumber](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@slimycucumber](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/u/slimycucumber)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938/20 "2017-08-18T14:48:03Z")
So u cant block or dodge thorns. Lol. But how bout reflect dmge???. I thought anything that damges your chracter can be blocked/dodged. [Next page](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/skyfall-tnt-etc-can-block-dodge/17938.md?page=2)