# The Next Patch

**URL:** <https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 12, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430 "2015-08-12T18:16:10Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/401 "2015-09-14T11:13:43Z")

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still waiting for the next patch

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/402 "2015-09-14T11:32:16Z")

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So just to be sure

Defiant Scenario has 5 in set rank  
Increases DMG and DMG Reduction by 25%, increased by 25%(If Set is at 5) of total HP% missing

It means if I lost 25% of my HP My DMG and DMG reduction becomes 31.25 (25% of my 25% of Missing HP) Right?

New slot independent Mythic Affix: Blood Magic – Replaces all MP, MP Regen, and MP Leech with HP equivalents, and removes your MP bar. You now use HP to cast spells. Spell cost doubled. DMG increased by HP Missing divided by 1.25

For the Blood magic mythic If I Lost like 30,000HP

30,000/1.25 = 24000DMG right?

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/403 "2015-09-14T12:09:22Z")

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[quote=“emman23”]So just to be sure

Defiant Scenario has 5 in set rank  
Increases DMG and DMG Reduction by 25%, increased by 25%(If Set is at 5) of total HP% missing

It means if I lost 25% of my HP My DMG and DMG reduction becomes 31.25 (25% of my 25% of Missing HP) Right?

Yes

New slot independent Mythic Affix: Blood Magic – Replaces all MP, MP Regen, and MP Leech with HP equivalents, and removes your MP bar. You now use HP to cast spells. Spell cost doubled. DMG increased by HP Missing divided by 1.25

For the Blood magic mythic If I Lost like 30,000HP

30,000/1.25 = 24000DMG right?

No. Increase in damage is measured in percentiles.[/quote]

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/404 "2015-09-14T12:37:49Z")

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[quote=“ocenyx”][quote=“emman23”]So just to be sure

Defiant Scenario has 5 in set rank  
Increases DMG and DMG Reduction by 25%, increased by 25%(If Set is at 5) of total HP% missing

It means if I lost 25% of my HP My DMG and DMG reduction becomes 31.25 (25% of my 25% of Missing HP) Right?

Yes

New slot independent Mythic Affix: Blood Magic – Replaces all MP, MP Regen, and MP Leech with HP equivalents, and removes your MP bar. You now use HP to cast spells. Spell cost doubled. DMG increased by HP Missing divided by 1.25

For the Blood magic mythic If I Lost like 30,000HP

30,000/1.25 = 24000DMG right?

No. Increase in damage is measured in percentiles.[/quote][/quote]  
For Blood magic mythic  
so at a scenario of 25% lost HP.

it will be 25/1.25 = 20% increase in Damage?

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/405 "2015-09-14T12:57:15Z")

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[quote=“emman23”][quote=“ocenyx”][quote=“emman23”]So just to be sure

Defiant Scenario has 5 in set rank  
Increases DMG and DMG Reduction by 25%, increased by 25%(If Set is at 5) of total HP% missing

It means if I lost 25% of my HP My DMG and DMG reduction becomes 31.25 (25% of my 25% of Missing HP) Right?

Yes

New slot independent Mythic Affix: Blood Magic – Replaces all MP, MP Regen, and MP Leech with HP equivalents, and removes your MP bar. You now use HP to cast spells. Spell cost doubled. DMG increased by HP Missing divided by 1.25

For the Blood magic mythic If I Lost like 30,000HP

30,000/1.25 = 24000DMG right?

No. Increase in damage is measured in percentiles.[/quote][/quote]  
For Blood magic mythic  
so at a scenario of 25% lost HP.

it will be 25/1.25 = 20% increase in Damage?[/quote]

Yes

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/406 "2015-09-14T13:48:47Z")

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Thanks Ocenyx. 😉

So now I am Trying Discordance.

On the codex and the next patch blog

Discordance – The cooldown, mana cost, and damage, Extra Attack Chances and Multi Attack for Primary and Special skills of your Main Hand are switched.

When you read it on the Affixes And Effect Screen  
The cooldown and mana cost for Primary and Special Skills of your Main Had are Switched

I Tried it a few times and my special skills doesn’t get the multi attack and extra attack chance.

Cooldown and Mana cost works for me.

I’ve been trying the damage

Example scenario. It would be like this right?

Comet 200k  
Meteor 2m

Discordance

Comet 2m  
Meteor 200k

Edit: If I use Discordance when will it activate with regards to Heroic Points. Example I put 20 on comet. Does this benefit my Meteor when using discordance?

Or I should put 20 points on my Meteor for it to benefit the skill even if with discordance.

What if I Put 20 points in Comet and 20 points in Meteor does that mean when I use discordance it accounts both Heroic skills?

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/407 "2015-09-14T13:52:30Z")

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> [@ocenyx](#):
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> [quote="cyberjuba"]I’m trying some mythics and the Vanish says that it has 10% to cast it on attack per second but shouldn’t it be 30%?

Nerf bat.jpg[/quote]  
Apocalypse is getting this too?

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/408 "2015-09-14T14:29:02Z")

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IIRC no. The rest of the mythic skills still have their percents intact since 1.8. Or at least all mythicals I have at the moment…

@emman I’m not sure of the answer, better let the Reds or the Purples clear this up.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/409 "2015-09-14T17:12:46Z")

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> [@ocenyx](#):
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> [quote=“cyberjuba”]But 3 Stealth Proc is 75%

Huh?

You can only get 5% max roll from stealth ![:dieter:](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/uploads/default/original/1X/6b379b1b5f043bb5fdd67f2cb7bcf5e1f3a10273.gif "French")[/quote]

lol, my bad. Thanks.

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**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/410 "2015-09-19T23:28:32Z")

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[quote=“emman23”]  
I Tried it a few times and my special skills doesn’t get the multi attack and extra attack chance.[/quote]

You don’t get multiple attacks but the DPS boost is added directly to the special just like Boomerang and Charge. IE: EAC 1 = Specials have a 50% chance to do 2x DMG.

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**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/411 "2015-09-20T01:39:14Z")

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I just noticed pierce’s multiattacks no longer home like comet’s. Is that intended?

-Arc keeps targeting friendly units. It does not damage them, but I suppose that discount targets. On a side note, this skill feels pretty weak on pvp; it’s possible to buff it? Maybe add a decreasing damage bonus per target?

-Command keeps crashing the app when used a lot. It’s the only “cause” I was able to find to the summoner’s crashes.

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**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/412 "2015-09-20T14:00:25Z")

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1. Yes piece has a very different mechanic than Comet.

2. Known, It is being looked into.

3. Is this in PVE?

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/413 "2015-09-21T00:18:23Z")

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It’s on both pve and pvp. The crash is aleatory, but it heavily diminishes by not using command. If I pvp as spirit summoner, I can crash at the first match. As a skull summoner (with summon by talent), it never crashes. It’s not the resource system (tried with BM and alchemy), it’s not the MH (interchanged them), it’s not the special skill, it’s not the OH’s regular skill. It’s something about command, looks like it activates some kind of flag that can crash the game over and over and over (I can crash inmediatly after a crash).

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/414 "2015-09-21T00:33:24Z")

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A dialog supposedly pops up when the game crashes… you may want to tap the Report button on said popup so that the devs can take a look

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/415 "2015-09-21T01:17:26Z")

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I’ve done it, on several devices. I’m just reporting findings regarding the issue.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/416 "2015-09-21T04:15:20Z")

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[quote=“McEna”]It’s on both pve and pvp. The crash is aleatory, but it heavily diminishes by not using command. If I pvp as spirit summoner, I can crash at the first match. As a skull summoner (with summon by talent), it never crashes. It’s not the resource system (tried with BM and alchemy), it’s not the MH (interchanged them), it’s not the special skill, it’s not the OH’s regular skill. It’s something about command, looks like it activates some kind of flag that can crash the game over and over and over (I can crash inmediatly after a crash).

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Thanks for the detailed post!

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/417 "2015-09-21T04:47:20Z")

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> [@emman23](#):
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> So I just checked the top 3 on eternal league. Something seems off though.
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> Number 1 with 14215 Points and with Wins of 244 and losses of 571.  
> [attachment=0]12019272\_1031308313560497\_308434198\_o.jpg[/attachment]

Posted this on bug report and I didn’t get a response on it.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/418 "2015-09-21T05:45:10Z")

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[quote=“emman23”]  
Posted this on bug report and I didn’t get a response on it.[/quote]

Don’t worry about it.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/419 "2015-09-22T02:53:57Z")

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When this update will be live?  
Couple of month ago was the last patch.  
When?)) Please answer)

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.dungeon-quest.com/t/the-next-patch/2430/420 "2015-09-23T02:18:36Z")

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[quote=“McEna”]It’s on both pve and pvp. The crash is aleatory, but it heavily diminishes by not using command. If I pvp as spirit summoner, I can crash at the first match. As a skull summoner (with summon by talent), it never crashes. It’s not the resource system (tried with BM and alchemy), it’s not the MH (interchanged them), it’s not the special skill, it’s not the OH’s regular skill. It’s something about command, looks like it activates some kind of flag that can crash the game over and over and over (I can crash inmediatly after a crash).

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Can you pm me your build? I cannot reproduce on iOS.

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