Yeah, maybe if I had tried it 1000 times I might have actually succeeded in leaving something other than the Bonus Slot behind. That sounds too much like bug, not a playable feature of the game.
Yeah thatâs probably why we have to be wiser with build choices . I mean we have more leeway than back before dust existed but yeah. Honestly the bonus thing doesnât worry me too much as you can make great builds while moving away from it.
Honestly on most items with a bonus, the affix that wasnât obtainable on ruby that is on that item could be gotten on some other item.
Also many bonuses tend to gravitate better for PvP since you only need halve the requirements to fulfill and the effects are halved but itâs still powerful. The PvE bonuses, not many but good ones include Epiphany Bonus and Haunting bonus, both donât need too much slots to achieve and synergise well in any sort of build.
Another thing is that the set affix the bonuses use are common in Amethyst most of the time too. Hardly any item is ruined by a bonus to limit building and it seems fine for now since most affixes are easy to get from crystals anyway. There are some bonuses that can indeed be improved upon though.
Nadroji bonus is one thing where I heard of trying to remove but you remove 100% ED even though the primary reason was to get 100% ED and no Nadroji bonus as a affix slot but that doesnât work well and ED% is so widely available anyway. There are some other examples but in. most cases, you donât have to worry about the bonus messing up a build.
If you already got an item with a bonus and realised it was a mistake, crafting separate item or something helps of course of making do. It really depends.
Iâm curious what is that bonus youâve been trying to remove.
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Trust Mez Iâm at seasoned DQ crafter with crystals and mythstones and the legends to use.
Except for one thing, not all Legendary Affixes can be gotten from Ruby. Many are from drops. You lose them on an item, you canât get them back.
Its the Bonus for the Icicle Crown. I donât need it, but I have to make use of it. Fortunately I can. But in doing so it locks in two items, and locks out so much more.
Iâm about to give this game a rest. Farming Crystals ainât paying off. Wasting a lot of time AND money, but not getting squat.
But damage to elites is easy to get and not a good affix. Not that good anyway. Itâs so easy that a variety of legends without bonuses have it anyway. Defiant offhand, some gladiator legends , some random warrior legends, random rogue legends, etc.
Also the time spent by crystals is what keeps the longevity of the game. If it were too easy, everyone would quit fast . It was a lot more time consuming though at one point that it took a year to make one build and nowadays it takes a week, 2 weeks, a few months so itâs almost balanced.
Also if you donât need it, you can always try other items and take the time to edit . I had a similar situation but I realise itâs not a big deal even with my nooby farm build since I could quickly replace them. I suggest you take the time to really look at many legends in the codex and ask others or look for information of which is most sought after and which items have a specific affix that isnât from ruby, obsidian, etc.
For you farming doesnât seem to pay off but for many, it does. Its way faster than blind farming which is farming without farm affixes and generally, taking the time to learn will pay off in any point in time.
Unless you donât find anything of the game fun , then yeah.
I know how to farm very well in this game and I most of the time just play 1 hour a day or 2 hours at most but yet I can make many high quality builds . I also plan them before I make them sometimes and generally study and take my time and not rush.
Key to farming. A speedy build with move speed , a hirling that deals good damage (crushing flames is preferable) , some amount of time, at most an hour of farming is enough. Then being efficient with farming affixes and we have guides to help with that or trial and errors , floor 200 , maps with pack size of % , etc.
Farming is the key to success in the game tbh. Also you can take the time to test any build possibilities you can think of in your head and learn that way and see what other builds offer. You do seem good at making builds, you just basically need time to learn some affixes , certain legends to get, theorycraft if possible, etc.
The game feels like even more hell if you donât properly farm at all and I know this from first hand experience. I was behind by 6+ months because of that and my potential but despite this, I took the time to fix that issue, learn about the game, ask for help, etc.
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Iâm curious, whatâs your farm build like? I could suggest improvements for it and yeah, farming will become a breeze sooner than later. Any playstyle is fine as long as youâre comfortable with it as well.
Farming crystals does take a bit of time as you can tell but as far as I can tell , when you have a really good farm build, 1 hour a day or less seems to set you quite good for many builds in some months and weeks. I usually play one hour a day these days , although I used to play a lot more. My farm build was really good despite the fact that my hirling did all the work and my warrior just walks .
Floor 200 seems the sweet spot for gold farming, exp farming and legend farming for dust. Floor 500 sweet spot for crystal drops but mix and match .
Ok. Well if you donât find it fun, I see what you mean. Personally I had no trouble with the farming system as itâs very balanced and the legends are definitely balanced too.
Most legend affixes on items that arenât from ruby , well many legends have them. If itâs DMG to elites, legends that have them are: Insolence , random warrior legends like Broadway, random rogue legend , gladiator legends , scoundrel legends.
Push the Limit luckily isnât affected too much by bonuses. The only item with bonus and Push the Limit is the cerebral cortex skull but Push the Limit can easily be found on the Clairvoyance chest , masochist fetish, divination amulet and cognition ring.
Barbarian can be got from Masochist weapon and helmet. Also a berserker weapon but none have bonuses to ruin them.
Specialist is ok but not the best and itâs also fairly easy to access without bonus ruining it. Mirror cast also and Clearcast (well the mythstone is better). Resource cost (again the mythstone is better and no need to look for legends with resource cost unless you want a free crystal affix).
Double strike. Well one way is demonic ring bonus and the other way is the offhand of Electrocution legend I believe and the demonic dagger. Execute DMG % in many legends although execute damage is the same as Demonic (which can be gained on amethyst) and relentless and even Electrocution (which also can be gained by amethyst).
As far as summon affixes, well you will have no trouble on most. The only way to get summon HP is sadism though nowadays but thatâs ok.
Arc dodge is also easy to get and not really restricted too much but not that sought after. Still itâs like having an extra mythic everytime you dodge since it basically does the Arc mythic on dodge.
100% ED is widely accessible. Can be gained on entropic jewel, aether wrap, aether hat, cognition ring, Crystalline/Eternalized weapons , Nadroji chest (though not worth it with bonus but thatâs ok since aether chest is easy to get) , Defiant Offhand and Mainhand aka Insolence and Mutiny , Frightening Choker.
Also epiphany Ring, Epiphany hat (though the bonus is there but that bonus isnât bad as it can fit in many builds). Elements build such as elements sword and shield too.
As far as 200% WD for any weapon, well thatâs there too. 200% WD can be found on masochist weapon, scoundrel weapon, Ragnarok, malestrom weapon , certain orbs, smoke bombs , shields . However I do notice that weapons such as Tome/Coat/Totem donât have either 100% ED and or 200% WD. Fairly accessible .
I guess for seven deadly sins, there are some items that are ruined but seven deadly sins would only work for its own build and no other build despite having 100% ED and stuff but good thing most are easy.
Pickup radius isnât so bad either. You get extra pickup radius through fortunate ascension , Satyrs spirit Legends , Eternalized/Crystalline legends , Nadrojiâs Robe , etc. Fairly easy to get despite limiting some choices in farm build but for the main character, they donât need to deal much damage but just survive or use crushing flames to an advantage or crushing blow.
Although in single player without hirling, yeah farming will be trickier but you wonât have to spend as many spots to achieve the max cap of gold find, luck and item drops. Sometimes you wonât even need max cap of everything and make compromises such as a luck and item drops only build or a gold only build . Exp farming is different though but yeah.
There is the +10 strength, +10 fortune and other such affixes on legend form but most are used in PvP so the limits are hardly a problem and fortune +10 isnât always worth it but it does help . Eternals especially.
Point is, pretty much everything is easily accessible and you can make decent compromises to still attain your goal . Trial and error does help obviously and just learning about the legends that you sought for.
Now if it were an Eternal item, this whole story would be completely different. Eternals are strong but you canât edit their affixes so thatâs a thing. Thatâs why Eternals are harder to make a build around them but nevertheless, you can make solid builds with 1 eternal or 2.
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So I have to wait till I get to map 500 in order to get any real farming for Crystals done? Thatâs outrageous. I need Rubies and I canât for the life of me seem to get any. Bottom four in the series are nearly impossible to get. I just finished ascending for what its worth and now have 300% crystalline find. All I get is tons of Quartz not much else.
Currently on map 268 and quickly running out of interest.
Yeah, I know all about trading in Legendary and Eternal Items for Crystals. But that tends to be REAL expensive. As in real money, not pretend.
No other Item has all three Legendary on the same Item. That was the whole point of choosing that particular item (icicle crown) to begin with.
Yeah sure but only one affix is not able to come from ruby and the other 2 come from ruby quite well. I get what youâre saying though. Elemental crit and Frostbiting come from ruby of course but damage to elites doesnât. Even though damage to elites can be got from other legends and not that good. The bonus does kinda limit you but thatâs what it is when you choose without using many crystals. Live and learn.
I mean itâs understandable if you donât have as many ruby though but yeah. Keep it temporarily but if you farm enough ruby (itâs not that hard to do after all) , then you can swap.
Have ya got any spare Rubies? If i did, we would not be discussing this dilemma.
I have lost my enthusiasm for this game. Too many restrictions on Item builds, and not enough of the main Crystals to make the changes.
Iâm gonna go play Boom Beach for awhile. I heard they have made a lot of improvements.
L8r maybeâŚ
Boom beach sucks and any pay to win game but thatâs just my opinion . DQ ainât pay to win which is why I like it but also because I like those titles.
Ok good luck on boom beach. I will miss your stories but at least youâll have fun.
Fun is all that matters and enjoyment in video games and if youâre not enjoying this one, I respect your decision to leave DQ. Burn outs happen.
Ditto on the stories and best of luck with BB my nephew enjoys that as well!
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I just donât have the enthusiasm for this game like I used to. Map 500 seems like a long ways away. It took me all summer just to get past level 200.
As far as âpay to playâ? This game has sucked down just as much $$ as BB has and in a shorter period of time.
The one thing I like best about DQ is I can play it offline. And I will continue to peck away at the next 225 levels in my spare time.
As far as the stories, well Iâm a writer and working on a Blog, I need to change my focus for awhile. Itâs been fun, guys. See ya aroundâŚ
Best wishes on the blog, stop in any time!
Oh really? I didnât spend much and already I won. In fact, I won the game even without a penny and learnt so much . Even without stashes, I could win the game for just 0.99$ or 5 character slot . The premium stashes and stuff do help but it only adds up to $20 or so. Vanities do add more but theyâre totally optional and just looks. Boosts are relatively inexpensive and you get them free from adverts so I donât see that you spent so much money on the game .
I just donât see how it would be as expensive as BB? BB to win faster, youâd spend thousands or 100s or spend years just to get to competitive level sometimes. I played clash of clans and BB and I know how it works.
I mean unless you spend on the bundles of gold or so and other stuffs.
To be totally honest, I could do very well with just 3 character slot , ad boost, maybe a permanent map unlocked and thatâs it. The stashes certainly helped but I would have done well even without the premium stashes. In my opinion, you learn a lot more from not spending much until you start to like the game. Before premium stashes were a thing, that too.
Even with just 1 player, Iâd have been fine , albeit it would take much much longer as I was stuck on 1 character for months but that was only because I didnât know how to spend money online (until I learnt the existence of gift cards because my parents couldnât buy on a game). Hirlings and stuff certainly helped but it was relatively inexpensive and even when I total all the money Iâve spent, itâs a heck of a lot less than other games with similar systems.
Boom beach imo is even more pay to play because of those insane wait times. Free to play? More like wait to win or pay to win and it can get boring . Everything is based on timers despite how addictive it is (which is why I quit clash of clans and BB for DQ). DQ , you have more control and itâs offline and you have many ways to play without having to wait X amount of hours or days even, just to get an upgrade.
I mean yes hours can still be sunk into the game but the difference is that you donât have to sit and wait.
Oh well, you do you. As long as you find it fun. I could have spent only say 5-10 or 20$ at most on DQ or so but I spent more because I really liked the game and supporting developers which helped with these awesome updates.
Iâm curious, how much did you spend on DQ compared to BB? I think BB is good if you just donât have much time to develop in DQ imo and I understand that since I used to play said games before.
To each their own.
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Well, now that you mention it. There are two things you might do. I bet you can guess what they are too! As I already mentioned it in this thread. L8râŚ