[Discussion Only] Cheaters & Hackers

[CupidStunts]

How riveting! It’s somewhat a relief that …nothing… Has changed.

It’s fun making hackers lose, without the constant whining to support. Wanna make a hacker feel truly imsignifcant and helpless in the world of gaming - mobile or not ? Just ignore it and figure out a way to trump them. Simple mathatical formulas! Unless it’s a Goku with Godlike abilities… Well, then you’re screwed and all the whining in the world, cyber or not, won’t change what happened. In the end these hackers are halfbaked beans as an example of what it means to hack. They’re just kids tired of being bullied on and off virtual platforms. Give them a break, these desperate measures for an insignificant sense of achievement are all these loserfaces have to cling onto.

For shame. For shame I tell you!

As for this immortal turdbuger dacussion that just won’t seem to die…

If you can’t.beat 'em then get back to a drawing board instead of expecting to be spoonfed the specifics for what you consider a fair trial.

If one was capable of crafting an “immortal” all it takes is one with a noteworthy brain to calculate a counter. Provided it suffices against builds that aren’t “immortals” squishy squishy gets squashed. Bruisers poke and sustain with ideal CC - they don’t break… They simply

Bruise.

Hinthint

[Golem]

I still haven’t looked at other players items in the Arena for the purpose of seeing if they cheated or not. the few times I look is to get ideas or see what they did to do so good in our fight, no matter who won. I just got my PVP Wizard with all Epic Affixes back into Eternal League last week. it was a lot of work, and I am sure I beat up a lot of legit and cheater players to do it. With All Epic Affixes!!! since my mind still likes to do crafting based on the Campaign part of DQ, it makes it kind of hard to change my thinking to craft for PVP, since the builds for both are so different. I kind of like the idea of using Epic Affixes to see how far I can go in Eternal League, because it helps me see how useful the useless affixes are, and how useless the useful affixes are.

there is a saying that goes: if you can’t beat them (hackers), join them (hackers). but for DQ I think it should be: if you don’t want to join them (hackers), beat them (hackers).

there are a lot of posts that can help a player get up into Eternal League with Legit Builds, and @Mr_Scooty gave us a look at how to make the foundation of powerful PVP Builds with Scooty Gift: Immortal Build Reveal. with posts like this, there is no reason to cheat anymore unless a player is incredibly lazy or want a Dev to send them to the Cheaters Battle Arena so they can compete against other cheaters and have the Eternal League Division One First Place Modified Gears. I know this might sound kind of bad, but how about Cheaters who get first place in Cheater league get a Green Gear with a Purple M in the center of the Gear, or a big Green M with crossed Screw Driver and Wrench, for their back, instead of the Eternal Back Legit Players get in the Battle Arena. I know it sounds like rewarding them, but if they wear it in the Legit Arena by somehow getting back in, it would give Legit Players a big clue as to whether you want to fight with them or not.

here is a look at Mr. Scooty’s Gift:

Scooty Gift: Immortal Build Reveal

Black Magic [image] 1. Immortal Build Release Disclaimer After long and deliberate consideration, I have decided to reveal the Immortal Build. In order to understand the decision, I need you to understand the Immortal Build was leaked to cheaters ~6 months ago who have been exploiting the build in the arena. In lieu of this knowledge, I want every player to have the opportunity to craft and experiment with this unique build. As @Midlumer and I wrote almost a year ago, the build can be defeat…

wow, just found this:

[Reports Only] Report Cheaters & Hackers

Hey! If you find any cheater or hacker in arena, please report them here. For any discussions or questions please use this topic: [Discussion Only] Cheaters & Hackers General Flagging condition: Cheating/Hacking Report Guideline: Please make sure your report is including following information: Arena ID: Reason: Screenshot of the modified item: When is someone cheating/hacking? If you see someone with one of the following items: - Modified Eternal items - Modified Legend …

[CuzegSpiked]

Lmao. Calcite pet best meme. .

[dickwad]

@Golem is right some chrystall affixes are not really that good. Some are ace. Check the epic against the crystalline

[Golem]

[REPORTS ONLY] Report Cheaters & Hackers

Surely you can’t get legend affixes on eternal pets

Merlins Imp <3

I just found this Merlin’s Imp on Floor 915. All I need left is all Eternal SDS [image]

@dickwad I switched Threads since this is the discussion side of hackers & cheaters.

doesn’t Merlin Pet Imp have a few Legend affixes? ok, just found a post with picture of what affixes it has.

no other Pets have Legend affixes on them. only Normal or Epic. Legend and Eternal Pets may also have a Set affix.

[Golem]

@WellPlay that Eternal Divination is Legit, Eternal Items have a chance for their Epic Affixes to be Crystal Affixes, if the Affix is on the Crystal Affix List.

@MATANDA the first and third Eternal Divination are Legit, Eternal items can have Crystal affixes if the Epic affix is on the Crystal affix list.

the second Eternal Divination you posted, the one with Skulldraga on it, I just tested it, and if you take an Eternal Divination and use Jasper on it to change it to Warrior and then back to Wizard, the Torrent will change to Skulldraga. Wizard to Rogue to Wizard it stays Torrent, but when I went Wizard to Rogue to Warrior to Wizard it goes Torrent > Sentry > Torrent > Skulldraga. so that is also Legit.

here is a post that lists the possible Crystal Affixes:

Honest player vanity

@Dandoclase you need to choose your words wisely before calling someone “scum” in the forum. Based on your posts, you do not understand the game. I will attempt to help you understand below. The first image you posted is an edited item by GINZO. The Stolen Galea gear does not have Armor affix. Eternal Divination with Cyan\Obsidian All Resist affix is possible. The epic affix “All Resist” can become obsidian affix. All eternal gears with affixes in the obsidian affix pool (below) has a chance…

also, when using Jasper Crystal to change an Item from one Class to another, both Talents and Skills will change. Items like Divination (Wizard item with Warrior Skill), when I switched it to Rogue, it kept the Torrent Skill, and because Torrent is Warrior Skill, when I switched it directly back to Wizard, it stayed Torrent. so there are special situations for some items.

I haven’t seen a list of conversions of Talents and Skills from one Class to another, but I believe the conversion isn’t random, so with some testing you can find out which conversions are beneficial to your builds. there is a Warrior item that has a Skill that when I use Jasper, I got Mana Shield on my Wizards Bracer, even though I did it for the Crystal Block!

here is a post of which Crystals can & can’t be used on Eternal items.

[Discussion Only] Cheaters & Hackers

Crafted Eternals in the Arena. you can change an Eternals Element. example: change Fire to Arcane. (Crystal Calcite) you can change an Eternals Class. example: change Warrior to Rogue. (Crystal Jasper) you can add a Myth Stone if the Eternal has an empty Socket. example: socket + (MS) Protest = +250 All resist. you can change the Nature. example: change Greed to Death. (Crystal Beryl) you can change the Talent. example: change Prismatic to Fester. (Crystal Citrine) you can recover a Myth S…

here is another post that shows affixes that can only be found on items and can’t be rolled with Crystals.

Crystal Crafting Restrictions

I compiled this list base on the help of the forum and wanted to share. Any improvements/additional info on it please post and I’ll edit it. Crystal crafting via obsidian. Crytal Block is to be crafted only on Off hand Cannot be attained via Amethyst Crystalline Mythical Nadroji Eternalized Defiant Maelstrom Gladiator (Class set exclusives like Rage/Momentum/etc) Example (The item needs to be on the class that it’s exclusive) (You can use jasper to change item to another class) This is a…

also, I think Extra Attack Chance can also be found on the Living Force Ring & Necklace items of all Classes, even though it is usually only found or rolled onto Weapons.

Block can be rolled on OH items only of any Class, but can be found on a few other Warrior items except for the Neck item. you can try looking for posts of which items have Block or just look in the Codex > LegendEx > Warrior.

[MATANDA]

@Golem so it’s mean thier legit!

[Golem]

yes, the Eternal Divination shown by the two of you are all Legit. as you can see in the post I shared, All Resist is on the Crystal Affix List. Legend and Eternal Items both have a chance for their Affixes to be Crystal if the affix is on the Crystal Affix List.

after I read your post, I actually used Dust to get 2 Eternal Divinations, because I didn’t think of Jaspering it to Rogue until I had tested the first one. I knew that using Jasper changes Talents and Skills of one Class to another when used, so I was testing to see if this is what happened.

I have said this in a few other posts, but the best way to learn what is Legit or not is to check a players Equipment against what is in the Codex > LegendEx. if an Equipped Eternal Item has different affixes than what is shown in the LegendEx, or Legend items have Legend Affixes that can’t be rolled with Crystals, report them. and along the way, you learn about cool items.

[dickwad]

The hidden game is converting one class item to another using jasper. You get surprised. All legit.

[MATANDA]

But why banned my MATANDA. So you mean their divination are legit!

[MATANDA]

I’ got 1 pic with this can you see her my divination was changed! But stuck long-long time ago! @Golem @dickwad

[MATANDA]

[Golem]

@MATANDA

for being Banned, you would have to ask a Dev. you should PM them if you still need to know. it is possible someone thought you cheated on your item, but didn’t check the Codex to see if you really cheated or not, and reported you anyways. I don’t have all of the items memorized, so I have to check the Codex to see if someone is cheating or not. and in the case of Torrent being changed to Skulldraga, I did some testing with Jasper to see if it is possible for that to happen.

on the Eternal Divination, All Resist is on the Crystal Affix List. so even though you can’t make it a Crystal Affix, when you find it as loot, or use Dust to buy it from the LegendEx, there is a chance for it to be Crystal All Resist. Max Luck and Crystaline Set can improve your chances for getting items with Crystal Affixes.

new players don’t know about Jasper, so they might not think about an item being changed from one class to another. Eternal Divination on a Rogue??!! CHEAT!!! but all it is was someone using Jasper to change the class from Wizard to Rogue. and if a Rogue or Wizard wants +60% Block on their Build, they have to use jasper to switch a Warrior item to their class!!.

[gruvka]

Ur divination not changed

[Golem]

@Vhinz009 & @kiane_zaine concerning the Eternal Aether Spark Lance being discussed.

Jasper can be used to change an Eternal Wand to an Eternal Lance.
Myth Stone can be placed on an Eternal Item if it has an empty Socket.
Aethereal Drain Set taken off and replaced with Momentum Set.
Legend Multi Attack taken off and replaced with Crystal Gold Find.
Legend Glasscannon taken off and replaced with Epic WD%.
Epic ED+ taken off and replaced with Epic WD+.
Legend Push the Limit not changed.

[Discussion Only] Cheaters & Hackers

Crafted Eternals in the Arena. you can change an Eternals Element. example: change Fire to Arcane. (Crystal Calcite) you can change an Eternals Class. example: change Warrior to Rogue. (Crystal Jasper) you can add a Myth Stone if the Eternal has an empty Socket. example: socket + (MS) Protest = +250 All resist. you can change the Nature. example: change Greed to Death. (Crystal Beryl) you can change the Talent. example: change Prismatic to Fester. (Crystal Citrine) you can recover a Myth S…

if this was found after defeating a high level mob, then this would be a Bug and needs to be reported in the Bug Report Thread.

the only other option is that a Cheat or Hack was used to modify this item. all anyone has to do is to compare an Eternal item in the Codex to the list of Crystals I posted, to see if the Eternal Item has been legitimately Crafted or not.

I hope this clears up any confusion.

[Golem]

@NUIQUE

well, the Eternal Divination looks legit to me (all affixes match up with the Codex, and Crystal All Resist is possible on an Eternal Item), but I will concede that it is possible that the chances are low to get good affixes like that on the Eternal Shibe.

personally, the more I read the Report Cheaters & Hackers Thread, the less I like the idea of using any Eternal Item/Pet in Battle Arena.

I wonder if anyone has found a Legend Item that has been Hacked. I have seen Legend Pets reported with some funny Hacks. players are so focused on non legit Eternal items, non legit Legend items are never noticed. could you imagine a PVP Build with Defiant Set on all 6 items and Legend Affixes in all slots that can’t be rolled?

[NUIQUE]

I wish I had seen a hacked legend myself.

Please look at the posted divination very well and compare it with any of @Mr_Scooty’s eternal divinations in the podium…

Now, if that does not convince you enough, toss in the most desirable pet for an immortal user

The guy knew exactly how to craft and he rolled his affixes in a manner that will not look obviously hacked but well…, @tdaniel has already worked on it. My suspicions no longer matter.

[Golem]

to be honest, the Divination might have been hacked to be perfect values, but there are Eternal items people have used that have perfect values and no hack. but yes, they are rare, but I don’t think so rare that you never see them. it’s Eternal items with affixes they shouldn’t have that catch my attention.

the fact that @tdaniel hammered the player shows that it was a hack that didn’t have to happen. I could spend a bunch of Dust on 10 or 20 of those, or as many as needed to get a good looking Eternal, and picked the best one. that way no Dev looking over my shoulder shaking their head and saying, you got caught, loser!!!