Mechanics behind total effective luck, gold, and item drop %


#63

Oh nice. So i have to get 200 item drops on both characters then. It would be 400/2=200%+100%=300% item drops yes?

I understand that if you add cap of gold find and luck on both characters it will divide by 2. 1300/2=650% cap for gold and luck find .


#64

Ok i think I know what to do now.


#65

Yep i know what to do now. Item drops does stack on both characters but someone told me it doesn’t but this guide prove them wrong. Now i can farm in peace !


#66

yeah, pray for RNG before u farm :grinning:


#67

Haha lol. I think best way to get eternal trophy is have a good stack of eternal chests before I open yes?


#68

yeah thats what i do


#69

Cool cool. I still praying to rng to get a terrashaper pet or a plagued pet with 5k ED and maybe some hp on it. I keep getting stitches but none of those pets give me the right affix (except for farming ), same with the amount of banes I have. I have 4 stitch and 3 banes and 1 of them is eternal. I also have many other pets anyways.


#70

Maybe even an eternal version of them!


#71

I have exactly what you want… I have a terrashaper with 5000 ED. But I’ve never got a stitch or an eternal pet:)


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#72

Argh how could u lol! Nah jk keep it, you worled for it and I not a thief . I usually enjoy working for it anyways


#73

If that so then having a hireling that didnt reach the cap is a disadvantage because it halve the luck and gold rate?


#74

The mechanics make sense but it doesn’t seem to tie up in game (mine atleast) unless there is something I am missing.

For example:

Wizard @ Epic difficulty (has Fortunate perk)
485.9% Luck
553.7% Gold Find
179.7% Item Drop

Warrior @ Epic difficulty
490.9% Luck
611.6% Gold Find
115% Item Drop

Together @ Epic difficulty (Wiz main, War hireling)
638.4% Luck
553.7% Gold Find
247.4% Item Drop

Based on the formula at the start of this topic my luck should be lower (488.4%), my gold find should be slightly higher (582.7%) and my item drop % is correct.

Any thoughts? Am I missing sometime?


#75

Probably. Fortune affix? Fortune heroic points? Your gears’ nature (luck and greed)?


#76

This, but, it sounds like you aren’t including your difficulty level’s bonus. Check your difficulty first.


#77

I thought that it could be something like that at first too. But I checked those:

Wizard
Luck - Difficulty (+150) + Gear (+73.4) + Fortune Lv25 (+62.5) + 0 Natures + Ascension (+200) = 485.9%
Gold Find - Difficulty (+150) + Gear (+116.2) + Fortune Lv25 (+62.5) + 1 Natures (+25) + Ascension (+200) = 553.7%

Warrior
Luck - Difficulty (+150) + Gear (+265.9) + Fortune Lv30 (+75) + 0 Natures = 490.9%
Gold Find - Difficulty (+150) + Gear (+286.6) + Fortune Lv30 (+75) + 4 Natures (+100) = 611.6%

Clearly both luck values don’t average out to 638.4%. Although if you average them and then add 150 for the difficulty it is 638.4% but then surely this is counting the difficulty bonus twice?

I also noticed that my total gold find when using both is the same value as my wizard (main) alone. I tried equipping a different piece onto the warrior which had gold find (previous piece didn’t) and the gold find stayed at 553.7%.

This is on floor 191, not a map or anything.

Could it just be an error in the stats page?


#78

I’ve noticed differences between the Luck/GF/ID/XP stats in the All Stats list and those stats in the Adventure list. I think there were bug reports that the Adventure page is screwy for XP, so it might be screwy for the other stats. Where are you getting your Together values from?


#79

They are from the Adventure page.

The All Stats list are correct for the individual characters.


#80

If I remember correctly, there are still bugs on the stats pages, and there were some tweaks to the GF, ID, and Luck system.


#81

I believe map bonus is added after averaging, it’s always been that way


#82

Moved to guides category for visibility.


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