The Question Thread

Yes since Discordance swap damage and cooldown of MH Primary and Special. Actually,with Multi Attack and Skilled Mythic, Chakram can do about 1450% MH damage.

Thank you.

Yep . Correction : Multi Attack and Extra attack won’t work on primary skill with Discordance equipped as a mythic so as OP as that sounds, it only affects special skills with Discordance equipped.

However if you have no Discordance equipped, your chakram can be affected by Multi and Extra attack but not your special skill. Anyway even though chakram MultiShot Discordance is powerful in some way, I personally think without Discordance is a better option for primary skill like Chakram.

Chakram is the best primary MH% skill due to innate MH%, cooldown is dependant on catching the boomerang , speed of return, etc. Higher APS on chakram or return speed is basically lower CD in that regard.

With x4 Multi Attack, the MH Primary damage is x3 right ? If I add x4 Extra Attack, how much damage MH Primary can get ?

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Yes that’s right. As for 4+ extra attack, well it’s 1+(0.5+0.25+0.125+0.0625)= 1.9375 . 1.9375÷4= 0.484375 or ×1.484375 DMG increase aka 48.4375% MH DMG increase.

It does look like in the formula that if you use 2 Extra Attack, DMG is increased but 4 extra attack makes up for it by adding 4 extra attacks (as the name implies). Each extra attack apparently has 50% chance per each and DMG per each so less DMG per each.

Of course I did find the extra attack formula from somewhere in forums but from my own testing, 4+ Extra attack is indeed better even if the DMG numbers don’t show it and 2+ extra attack shows similar DMG numbers to 4+ extra attack , though 2 less hits.

Although it’s probably way more MH% than I can imagine. This is one of the issues where even I can’t agree which is correct or not.

But I’d say based on damage numbers I’ve seen, 4 extra attack will not ruin the numbers but I noticed extra bits and faster take downs of enemies so 4+ Extra Attack is a great combo with 4+ Multi Attack. Extra Attack is like a multi attack but a 50% chance to come so chances are, it deals similar DMG to multi attack.

After removing extra attack, a significant DMG decrease in MH% , especially in my Rogue Discordance Chakram orb build from arena PvP build Will of the Force and Seasonal Maidens’ build. It used to be the time when 2+ extra attack was on zenith stone instead of 4 in one slot so the general consensus was that only spend 1 slot on extra attack 2+. Now that it’s 4+, you cannot go wrong really.

Extra attack and Multi attack are most definitely worth it in Primary skills and if Discordance Equipped, secondary skills. Even if it doesn’t show extra attacks or multiple attacks, those attacks get converted into extra MH% DMG or so. 4x multi attack being 3× MH% DMG and 4x Extra attack having chance to give over 50% increase MH% and 4 of them .

Edit: Yep, when removing extra attack, I noticed a 50% DMG decrease overall so that extra attack definitely helps. Its a chance to deal additional attacks and each extra attack means a chance to deal X amount of additional attacks.

Sounds like 50% chance to deal 4 additional attacks where as Multi Attack is 100% chance to deal 4 additional attacks at 4+ Multi attack.

The 50% chance I saw from old description in Extra Attack before that changed. Extra Attack is like adding another Multi attack with a chance of triggering up to 4 times I guess…

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Yeah extra attack is one of those things that can be annoying to find an exact answer to even if the description sounds simple.

Ok, after testing, extra attack doesn’t seem to want to work as well without any multi attack equipped so it’s dependant on multi attack basically. At 2 extra attack, 50% DMG increase. 4 extra attack, another 50% DMG increase or so. The multi attack 4 did give ×3 more DMG as expected because multi attack is simply 1+(4×50%)= ×3 .

However no extra attack at all and no multi attack loses even more MH% DMG so extra attack on its own can work. Combining both extra attack and Multi attack seems to do justice though.

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im about 7/8 on the legend enemy feat. any suggestion what floor i should spawn it?

ive stopped playing for a year and ive lost the pc with my build plan.

Use a legend map or better,eternal map.
But that feat is easy to archive now thank to Hunter perk :smile:

In older patch, EAC is like “50% chance to deal additional attacks”, I thought those attack deal 100% damage but that was noob time so not really pay attention 'bout that :blush:
If MA and EAC can work together, that’s good :smile:

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does each craft of eternal legends reroll affix values? is it possible to roll a perfect eternal through crafting?

How to get the BWD of weapon?

I think there is formula in codex…

Yes. I saw that but I don’t know where to get that BWD.

BWD+1*(Item lvl*0.25)*Max(1,Item lvl/20)

That’s the one formula im not sure myself how to do but there’s a thread where Clogon answered.

Also for level 100 weapons, to find it’s BWD, just click on weapon and see the damage on top.

For eg, gauntlet may say 6240-10400 DMG when you go menu for example and that’s the BWD at level 100. The average BWD is the middle of those values or so but any of these values will be calculated.

That is why you use 10400 as BWD for gauntlet in your calculation. Right?

But I want to know how to get those. I want to calculate for other item levels.

On clogons post he uses 60 as base DMG for chakram. Do you think he get those from a lvl 1 chakram?

Yep.

its anyway to put 2 myth stone +50 DMG in a wand or other weapons?? Or is other way to increase a DPS/DMG of a weapon??

note: the wand already have +weapon dmg and % weapon dmg. The actual dps is around 100 to 110.

You can only put one mythstone of each kind in an item.

does each craft of eternal legends reroll affix values?

is it possible to roll a perfect eternal through crafting?

how to increase loot imp’s (break destructible feat) rarity of drops? I did get lots of eternals through this.

Every craft of eternal and legend items through dust gives different values(numerical) of affixes. And it is possible to craft/drop a perfect eternal item. Recently, one member here posted his eternal poise and all of it affixes are perfect. Not cheated nor hacked. As for the imps’ feat, high luck/eternalized/crystalline set will increase your chance on having an eternal or crystal item to be dropped since the imp guarantees 3 legend upon completing the feat.