Tip for leveling from 1-50 in one floor, any Ascension, no Quest Mythstones necessary


Hi guys, I did exactly what was mentioned above.

1: make dps main character and ascending character to hireling.
2: go map 101 m3 and get a challenge map for 101 m3
3: open the map then ascend the hireling
4: start the bloodbath.

Have i miss any steps?

Tried it for twice to ascend.
However , took me 3 x level 101 with +140% packsize maps and it only brings me to level 19 max. I even have 6 x quest stones on my gears.

Your help and advice will be greatly appreciated .


Leaf, I hope you’re well. I can’t say exactly what the problem is, but there is likely something missing. Here’s what I’d recommend:

  1. Just like you did, your farming / high dmg character is main, your hireling is the one ready to ascend

  2. Buy a map, any floor level 101 or above, doesn’t matter which number

  3. Use diamond crystals to change the affixes on the map you just bought. You’re looking for the Pack Size affix. Once you roll it, use Larimar crystals to roll the highest % Pack Size you can, 150 is max so I typically aim for 130+%

  4. Open the map.

  5. Once you start the level, ascend your hireling. So he/she will now be level 1. You must ascend your hireling after opening the map you just rerolled, not before.

  6. Start killing enemies. Your hireling will die a lot, but stop killing enemies and revive it when it does. without delay because it doesn’t accrue any experience while it’s dead.

  7. It should level up very fast now on this floor. But, only on this floor. Once you move on to any other floor / map / level you will lose this rapid exp boost and will level up as normal. The reason I say floor 101 is because lower level floors are larger in size, meaning more enemies, meaning more boosted exp :smile:


Yes, as I had mentioned in my post and what you had just replied. It looks pretty much the same. Only difference is my hireling didn’t die at all in both the tries, probably its at 101 m3. Both maps aremail done above 140% packsize which is 10% or 20% additonal then your guide.


@leaf the more u ascend the more xp is required to gain lvl … maybe the xperience required to lvl is giving you a feeling of slow xp

ya dis is my fav method i was doin dis since 2.0 too 101 is my fav map to grind xp … in lvl 1 i would use ice mh wep (very easy mode) den kill mobs 1 mob gives me like tons of xp at low lvl den i inc the difficulty lvl as i go lvl up higher… nc guide though


Hi Roy, are we speaking the same language? Here we are talking about xp with hireling as dps however your reply sure make me feel that you don’t know what you’re talking about or even understand the conversation before jumping in to comment.
No offence, i do appreciate that you bother to say something but please understand the conversation before commenting.
Irrelevant comments will lead to misunderstanding and wastage of bandwidth.


@leaf well in my comment der i was doin it without hireling thats the time when i only got 1 char slot dont bother reading it if you dont like

I just want to tell u that it might be because of the xp required to lvl cuz as u know u need more xp to lvl the more you ascend

WITH/ WITHOUT a hireling the xp will be slower if u ascend more compare to your 1st ascend



Hireling question

Does this method still work, or is there a better one out now? If it does, is floor 101 still the best, or have they raised XP gains on higher floors?


I once used my skullshield trick on wiz to quickly gain levels upon ascending.

I just let my wiz go lvl 99, activate my skullshield wc does a 3b dmg per hit(deadly strike of sureshot)

Ascend the wiz, and walk through enemies… lol


I think the experience stat in the map affects trash mobs too. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but it always felt faster when the experience stat on the map was higher then 800%


Wow that’s similar to one of my guides but it’s extremely helpful . Still the only difference is no quest stones.

I do think it’s much quicker with quest stones though and it definitely makes a massive difference by months or so as well as time invested. Although if it’s level 1 to 50, it’s not always a big deal if you know what you’re doing but it still definitely speeds it up.

Doing Solo Mode EXP Gain on floors like 101 is great for packsize and for levels 1-50 and higher.

Mythic 3, epiphany + exp gain , exp gain shrine + shop boost. 250% exp gain. 350% with shrine and 450% with boost. The hidden 175% exp gain from mythic 3 is added so it could be 625% exp gain hidden.

I do remember the good old days of being able to get above 1k% EXP Gain but understandably it was too OP so it’s nerfed.

Then there’s Nadroji bonus, 140%+ packsize or so and then crammed rooms like @JesusSaves mentions. Floor 200 was great for me simply because the packsize is great as well as EXP Gain but I guess floor 101 might be better in terms of crammed spaces but of course I never thought that far.


Thanks all. @CuzegSpiked, my trouble with quest mythstones is that I don’t have any. I just made it to 99 on my first run and have very few crystals/mythstones to do any type of XP boosting, or craft any type of XP set. Should I ascend to get the perk, or try to quest further and farm more crystals/mythstones?

How do you break the barrier the first time? It seems it’s a vicious cycle: need crystals/mythstones to make sets, and be able to farm more XP/crystals/mythstones. But if you don’t have any in the first place, it’s a tall order for someone like me just starting out. Not sure on what the best strategy is at my current level.

Lastly, where do you get these sets like epiphany, cryastalized, etc…? Can I craft them eventually when I have CS/MS, or do I need to farm above a certain floor for them to drop?


Rush floors 400 very easy difficulty.

Epiphany drops at floor 600, crystalline on 350. Set affix cannot be obtained via amethyst


I’m thinking why not 180-200 floors instead 101, but w/e, it’s still good.

I don’t see too much point about complaining about no quest mythstones, since you can convert crap ones to these and they will remain forever (until you use to make mythic, but that is not the point)!

As a personal SOLO choice, I use crushing flames (6) (cause it’s guaranted KO on common rarity enemies) + aether set affix (5) (for element critical chance) + 6 quest myth (200% exp) + (Taunt and Orb + Reactor) on LEVEL 2 gears with 120% pack size at floors 180-200.

It just made me reach from epic ascension to eternal in less than 2 days. Although, it may cost some crafting material, but it’s very rewarding.

PS.: I had a vídeo to show the build, but I’ve noticed I deleted it for some reason I don’t remember, LOL


I did floor 201 when leveling trying to get some rare legendary drops. Only applies when new though since after a certain point they just become dust fodder.

Also as soon as you get quest mythstones use them don’t horde them. You will get them easy after a few weeks of gaming.

And as soon as possible make a hunter ring to start farming epics for drops and hero feat points.


To get to my point , just farm farm farm a certain floor like 200 and 400 repeatedly. 200 for the gold . 400 for the crystals and also chance on enslaver feat.

Although floor 200 is also great for legends which you can salvage for dust . This dust can unlock legends you never found from high floors,albeit with a fairly expensive cost but once bought , it definitely helps you; it is also great to craft found Eternals to convert to ultra crystals.


Wow, great info guys. So I should try to farm a bit more to increase my CS/MS before ascending I assume. Also, what sets does Amethyst not work for? Epiphany, crystalized…what else? Is there a list I can look at to show which ones I can craft and which ones not?

So how do people craft gear with epiphany on it? Do they find an item, then remove all other affixes accept epiphany and build from there? Same with crystalized?


You can see what sets are obtainable via amethyst here.

But it’s basically what you said: You find a item with an affix you want and crart starting from it.


This is a super amazing tip. I have been grinding it out for MONTHS and I have done in a few weeks what it has taken me nearly a year to do. Wish I would have known this trick aLOOONNNNGGG time ago.


I remember when I happened upon it, I was just as happy as you :rofl: