Not sure what to do

[quote=“Unities”]Every map has 2 shrines (except the bugged ones).

Eternals are not that good yet.[/quote]

It is not a bug, there is no written statement that says every map has 2 shrines, on the contrary the is a statement from the dev team saying not every map has to have 2 shrines.

Eternals are the best possible items in game at this present time. Its purely down to the RNG gods that determine affixes, so people like you can say they are not that good yet.

If your going to relay information to players requesting help, at least give them the correct information, and not your unfounded ramblings !

[quote=“JesteR”][quote=“Unities”]Every map has 2 shrines (except the bugged ones).

Eternals are not that good yet.[/quote]

It is not a bug, there is no written statement that says every map has 2 shrines, on the contrary the is a statement from the dev team saying not every map has to have 2 shrines.

Eternals are the best possible items in game at this present time. Its purely down to the RNG gods that determine affixes, so people like you can say they are not that good yet.[/quote]

  1. I posted about it in this thread but never got a sure shot answer. How do you expect me to have information that is not relayed? Forgive me but I do not have access to the same information you do. From your statement, is it safe to assume that Buff Shrines not appearing is intended?

  2. Comparing the current available Eternals, they are not as good as custom made items except a very very select few. Can some Eternals be amazing? Yes but the majority suck. Even if you are lucky enough to have a Crystal affix on the Eternal (from my experience 1/5000 legends), many are not optimal pieces of equipements that can be built around as they either have no Set or a not so useful Set.

Even with the nerfed Use Crystal Feat, your time currently have a better invested in farming Crystals and Crystal legends. If you are not on floor 500+ chances are, that Eternal will not be lv100 and will suck. Optimal Eternals are the rarest of equipment and farming them takes a lot of set up (IE: need to be at floor 500). Custom built Crystal items are still for the most part better than eternals and easier to get (this last point is a big issue for new players). Out of the 6 Crystal Eternals I have found, I am keeping 3 of them for end game but I will not be keeping any of my 17 Eternals, none of them are optimal. Am I using some of the eternals? Yes but that is because I am a new player and I do not have access to a full set of maxed out custom made Crystal Gear.

Investing into Eternals is like investing into the lottery ticket. You cannot expect to get good end game gear from them. Not in this patch at least. I know there are a lot of good things ahead for Eternals but:

Too bad, changes only affect items which drop after the update :frowning:
But some boring-set-affixes will change :wink:[/quote]

Now is not a good time to be hunting Eternals. Just get to floor 500 and farm CS/MS.

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Hint. … + gold find. And pick up all that yellow stuff on the ground. Then, just be patient.

I usually farm 170 ish… or 330, depending on my mood.

[quote=“Bole Aganja”]Hint. … + gold find. And pick up all that yellow stuff on the ground. Then, just be patient.

I usually farm 170 ish… or 330, depending on my mood.[/quote]

Man I am poor as is. Now you want me to save up gold? :frowning:

What could you be spending all that glorious shiny gold on atm?


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.

[quote=“Rubik”]What could you be spending all that glorious shiny gold on atm?


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.[/quote]

There is a reason why I have a lot of eternals. And it requires A LOT of gold. Legends from the merchant are expensive… Spending 1 million every visit is not fun. But the description isn’t lying when it says they have a GREAT chance of being a rarer quality. Now if only the Merchant had Rogue armour and accessories.

Pets are also very expensive. They are very random too. So I have to buy a lot of them to look for the one that I want. They are the single best equipment in game but also the most random and I am not even talking about the Legend or higher pets. :frowning:

You should stop doing that. All of that. :smile:

And no, pets are not the best item in the game. They are functionally exactly the same as every other slot, 6 affixes. Except, you can’t do anything about those affixes. Oh, and they lack a nature. And they provide no armor. And you can’t change an element. Oh and no element resist. Come to think of it, I’d label them the worst. But hey, if you want half the stuff for twice the effort, who am I to argue. :wink:

Edit: Sorry, they do provide resists. I stand by my other points though.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.

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I will take your advice! I am tired of being poor. XD

But I will miss my Eternals from the merchant. Even though you only get 1 or 2 legends on average. The chance of them being Eternals are so high that about 30% of my eternals are from it!

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I’ve seen a lot of people complain about how useless gold is. So what’s the point when you don’t spend gold to buy stuff from the merchant?

This will change in patch 1.8.1, don’t worry

Buying pets from lower floors will be way cheaper

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Buying pets from lower floors will be way cheaper[/quote]

I do but they are SO random! I still don’t have the affixes I want :frowning: Oh well. Gonna save up gold.

I really love the merchant! It gave me so many good stuff! People should really learn to use it. The merchant is amazing. XD now if only I could get Legendary pets from it…

[quote=“Rubik”]You should stop doing that. All of that. :smile:

And no, pets are not the best item in the game. They are functionally exactly the same as every other slot, 6 affixes. Except, you can’t do anything about those affixes. Oh, and they lack a nature. And they provide no armor. And you can’t change an element. Oh and no element resist. Come to think of it, I’d label them the worst. But hey, if you want half the stuff for twice the effort, who am I to argue. :wink:

Edit: Sorry, they do provide resists. I stand by my other points though.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.[/quote]

No love for the pets :frowning: shame on you Rubik :wink:
Using some messed up logic, I kind of agree that pets are the best item in the game.
Finding that very rare elusive perfect pet, is everyones goal. We all can craft our items perfectly, and exactly how we want them, but pets are still RNG gods reliant.
The perfect pet is the most sought after item, and also the rarest item in the game … so in a way the best :wink:

Pets are also the only way to get Talents and Skills that are not from your class! Then, you can boost them with +All Talent/Skill.

[quote=“JesteR”][quote=“Rubik”]You should stop doing that. All of that. :smile:

And no, pets are not the best item in the game. They are functionally exactly the same as every other slot, 6 affixes. Except, you can’t do anything about those affixes. Oh, and they lack a nature. And they provide no armor. And you can’t change an element. Oh and no element resist. Come to think of it, I’d label them the worst. But hey, if you want half the stuff for twice the effort, who am I to argue. :wink:

Edit: Sorry, they do provide resists. I stand by my other points though.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.[/quote]

No love for the pets :frowning: shame on you Rubik :wink:
Using some messed up logic, I kind of agree that pets are the best item in the game.
Finding that very rare elusive perfect pet, is everyones goal. We all can craft our items perfectly, and exactly how we want them, but pets are still RNG gods reliant.
The perfect pet is the most sought after item, and also the rarest item in the game … so in a way the best :wink:[/quote]
Oh I love pets too. But if you could pick only 4 slots of the 7 to use, would a pet be one of them?

No, this is not true. Pets DO NOT grant you other classes talents. And you can get skills from procs and special changes.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.

[quote=“Rubik”][
No, this is not true. Pets DO NOT grant you other classes talents. And you can get skills from procs and special changes.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.[/quote]

My Cerberus disagrees. I got the idea from mondy.malupet’s wizard. And by skills, I mean the Heroic Skills. As a non-Wiz Spell Sword user, you can get +20 Comet/Meteor if you are lucky with an Eternal Pet. XD

Talents and Skills are not the same thing. You are not getting that Mastery talent from that pet. As for the Heroic Skill points, im not sure, it sounds as if it would work under the same mechanics as the talents, which is it only affects what is natural to your character. Perhaps not though.

Edit: Confirmed, Talents are not granted, +Skills are effective.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.

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What do mean sir Rubick in “Talent are not Granted” :question: :question: :question:

How do you say that?

Mine provides armor.

[quote=“Rubik”]
Edit: Confirmed, Talents are not granted, +Skills are effective.


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.[/quote]

Just got back from work, I can confirm your confirmation. Equipping that pet on my Rogue did not give me any cooldown reduction. Back to the drawing board. Thanks for taking the time to double check this! (I was surprised to see my name colour change. I look forward to working with you and everyone else!)

If your class does not have that talent, the Talent Affix from other classes is totally useless and does nothing.

@bradoplata

Yes that one does, but I meant the standard armor rating such as a chest piece would. :smile:


I would like to thank the thinkers that think they thunk the thoughts they theorized.

Geeez rubik. I see what you mean… Hi Unities :slight_smile: welcome!